22T 8 Kisha Gallagher | Battle Of The Sexes


Where did the battle of the sexes begin? Linda Sutton’s guest today is Kisha Gallagher, a Creation Gospel trainer and a former co-host on Hebrew Nation Radio’s Morning Show. Kisha dissects Adam and Eve’s relationship in the Garden of Eden through Hebraic lenses that shed light on the issues we face today between men and women. Once we understand where the original relationship failed, we can reset and make better choices with our relationships. Tune in to see the Book of Genesis in a way you haven’t before! 

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The Battle Of The SexesA Hebraic Analysis Of The Original Relationship With Kisha Gallagher  

What we’re going to tackle is where the battle of the sexes began. Here in the Western cultural context, the battle of the sexes begins and the first book of the Christian Bible Genesis with the fall of man. In order to tackle that topic, I had to bring back very special guest, Mrs. Kisha Gallagher, a Hebraic Roots scholar to help us to walk through and understand what is being said in Genesis about the fall of man from the Hebraic understanding in terms of definition, Hebraic cultural context and then gives us some insights on what we can draw from that understanding to help us to repair relationships, restore relationships and get back to the original idea and vision for relations living in the Paradise of Eden. Mrs. Kisha Gallagher is the author of BEKY Book called The Biblical New Moon: A Guide For Celebrating. She is also the lead author of the website, Grace in Torah, a ministry devoted to the Gospel of Yeshua, the Moedim, marital roles, and general Bible study. She is also the former co-host of the Hebrew Nation Radio’s Morning Show and has a program on ReviveTV, a Hebraic Roots Network. I am so excited to go back and tap into her deep wisdom as it relates to the Hebraic understanding of Genesis. 

Welcome back to the show, Mrs. Kisha Gallagher. It’s so good to have you back.  

Thank you. I’m happy to be back.  

She is the Hebraic scholar extraordinary. If you didn’t have an opportunity to read the first blog that we did with her on the Roles of Man And Woman, she went through and gave us a primer on the Hebraic understanding of male and female, man and woman, Adam and Eve, what it means to be a help me and what was the original idea and divine design for man and woman and relationships through the understanding in the context of Hebrew and understanding the original meanings of those words?  

If you missed that, you’ve got to go back because I had exploded with the truth. It’s so wonderful because it did parallel the level of synergy it had with our understanding of man and woman in their roles of leader, follower and angle that’s aligned with what you were explaining to us was the root word and context of the words that were used to explain the design, function, purpose, roles and responsibilities of men and women from the outset in Genesis. That was extraordinary. Thank you for your massive work, wisdom and sharing in that regard. 

Thank you. It’s a labor of love, Linda. This is my favorite topic.  

Thank you for sharing your time and coming back with us because the way that we left off the last conversation was for us to have an understanding of the basics. To understand what is being said in the text. There are the English translations translated through Greek and Hebrew but getting back to the original context, not only in terms of meaning but also in terms of culture what those words meant. I thought that was important because, in the anatomy of tango, we’ve been talking about leader and follower, male and female, man and woman and masculine and feminine energies. I wanted to deal with the fall and what happens when things break down. What does that look like?  

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Where did that start? Some of the habits and patterns we have fall apart because I’m interested to know that because there are certain places where it falls apart in the dance but there was something at the very end of the last interview that I want you to say again that will set the context for this interview. You were talking about the original idea and how, in the cyclical nature, the whole point of this is to get back and eaten in that original idea. Will you restate that for us if you remember your thought around that? What was the point of all of this?  

Everything in scripture is cyclical. It’s all about getting back. The prophet says, “The beginning is the end and the end is the beginning.” That’s where we want to get to. That’s what we’re working toward. Messiah came so that he could bring a restoration of all things. That includes the dynamic relationships between men and women. Where does he give his ideal? Way back in Genesis 1 and 2. It’s where we learned about that. We want to go back there. By doing that, it doesn’t mean we’re going to be perfect. We’re still going to make some mistakes if that is what our minds and our hearts are set on as a couple. The failings don’t matter so much. We’re going to learn from that, we’re going to get back up and we’re going to keep moving forward because we know that if we can move in flow together then we are going to be prosperousblessed, have a healthy relationship.  

Our children are going to go forward and have that setting in their minds instead of the brokenness that many of us came from. A lot of us came from very broken relationships with our parents. We carry that forward because it’s the only way we know how to act or to respond in situations. We keep repeating the same thing over and over. We want to go back to that beginning and that means we might have to shift some paradigms. It might mean we have to sometimes even go against our first sense of nature. If our first sense in nature is coming from a place of abuse, brokenness or fear, it may not be the right response because we’re wanting to selfpersevere or preserve ourselves.  

Not regarding whatever they’re doing. Those energies are not working together. We learned about that idea in the first segment. What we’re going to look at here is how it broke down. The consequences have broken down because we’re living in those but then what is God’s ideal? Both men and women, when they understand that those deep desires that they have as being a man and being a husband, as being a woman or as being a wife, those deep desires are not wrong. We might not be acting them out properly but they’re still instilled in us. Internity is instilled in the heart of man. That’s what it says in Ecclesiastics. We have it in us. Wjust need to know how to walk it out.  

There’s something that you said in the last interview about all being in seed form and understanding. We said this when we launched the fashion line about the divine design and for what purpose where you fashioned and understanding that the distinctions between men and women are by design. There’s no accident that you came forth as a man or as a woman. With that is all of the function. There are a function and purpose even in the design and nature of who you are or beyond the additional piece of your calling or your assignment. Sometimes, we try to separate, make our calling and assignment one thing but lose sight of the fact as I like to say as a hammer.  

You can use it for other things and it can do other things but it was designed and its purpose is to hammer in nails or remove them. That’s what it’s for. You can use it as a doorstop or as a weapon. That was his function and purpose. It operates best when it’s in use in its function and purpose. Let’s go into Genesis. I know this is going to be triggering for a lot of people. I know they’re going to deal with it upfront because I told them that I was going to take it headon in this battle of the sexes because this is where the battle of the sexes begins to me 

This is the original battle of the sexes. That’s what we’ll call it. This is the starting point. Our goal in this show and our tagline for the show is the battle of the sexes ends here. Hopefully, in this show, we’ll have enough context to understand what started this battle of the sexes and how we can come out of it so that we can get back in the original envision and the idea of us being in partnership in Eden. Let’s get to the fall because for a lot of women, this is going to be triggered. I know because we feel the blame for it. We, Eve, are the reason that all this went to Hades in the handbasket.  

We should start with a question then. We’re going to open right here in Genesis 3 with the fall. It’s going to tell us about the serpent and he’s going to approach Eve. Based on everything we learned in the first segment, why did the serpent do you think approach Eve and not Adam? It’s because of what we’ve heard and tons of commentaries, sermons and things throughout the years is he approached her because she was the weak one and prone to deception. Based on the ideal creation of how God created females, where does it say that she was weak or she was prone to deception? It doesn’t say that.  

Can you remind us, how was she described in that process?  

Whether you’re looking at the neqebah which means she’s a boundary setter or if you’re looking at her as the ishah, the woman or that can be translated as wife as well. She is like a fire, just like her counterpart, the male, they have a fire. She has a fiery breath that she’s meant to use. She’s not a dragon girl. Edification and encouragement, all those wonderful things, not fiery dragon words. That’s who she is. Specifically, she was created for Adam to be his helpmeet. That is the ezer kenegdo. The ezer kenegdo specifically means in Hebrew, she is a helper that opposes, in his face right in front of him, and most specifically to help him, not do his dishes, but maintain obedience.  

When God says he’s going to give an ezer kenegdo to Adam, the verse right above it is he gave him a commandment not to eat to that tree of the knowledge of good and evil. That’s her design. She came forth from Adam. Adam came forth from the ground. Adam’s mandate was to till and work in the garden, keep the thing from what she came from, the Adamah, the ground. Eve’s mandate is the same. She came forth from Adam. She is to guard, keep, maintain, serve and protect her Adam where she came from.  

If you were the serpent and she is a type of spiritual guard for his spiritual obedience, there’s a lot of things the man does not need help with whatsoever. He’s perfectly capable like you are but he needs help and we all need help. Women need help here too. It’s accountability. Where does he go? If he wants to take out Adam, he’s going to go to the one that would keep him accountable. He’s going to go to her first. If he can get through the gatekeeper because that’s what she is in that regard then he’s got AdamWe learned that he does that through deception. We’ll get into that. Maybe we should look at the scripture.  

You were saying that in the last one. I believe zakar is the one who is responsible, which is the male, for remembering the word or God. Since he’s responsible for remembering the word, he’s responsible for obedience to the commandments. That would also explain because he would need to get through her to get Adam to be disobedient. I wanted to underscore that and remind them of that.  

I’m reading from grains literal translation. This is Genesis 3:15The serpent was cunning above every beast of the field, which I don’t know if God made. He said to the woman, Did God really say you shall not eat from any tree of the garden? The woman said to the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the tree of the garden but of the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God has said you shall not eat of it nor shall you touch it. It lets you die.” The serpent said to the woman, “Dying you shall not die. That’s how that’s phrased in Hebrew. For God knows that in the day you eat of it even your eyes shall be open and you will be like God knowing good and evil. He approaches her and he asked herHe’s planting seeds of doubt. Did God say this? She wasn’t supposed to eat the tree but she added something. What was it? 

Not to touch it. 

Where do you think she got that idea from?  

In my mind, she had to have got it from Adam.  

It could have been either way. She could have thought, I’m going to put these extra protections up so that we stay obedient. More than likely, he told her the commandment he was given and he’s the one that did that. He was trying to give a little overprotection for her in that regard. Either way, it was an addition. The fact that the serpent was near that tree, touching that tree and wasn’t dying, probably made her doubt even more. There are lots of ways to look at this little archetypical story and that’s what it is. If we move on into the next verses then that’s when she saw the tree. I want you to notice all of the senses that are being used in this thing especially with the eyes. When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, it was a delight to the eyes and the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate.  

22T 8 Kisha Gallagher | Battle Of The Sexes

Battle Of The Sexes: Everything in scripture is cyclical; it’s all about getting back. The prophets say the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning, and that’s where we want to get to.


She gave also her husband with her and he ate then the eyes of both of them were opened. They knew that they were naked, they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings. We look at this as women and we’re like, Why did she do this? She gave it to him and he ate. It was all big mess. We have to realize, the text clearly tells us as we’ve moved forward, she was deceived by the serpent but Adam was not deceived. Why do you think he ate? Why did he eat the fruit if he knew what was going on? The text says, he was with her meaning he was close enough like they were touching elbows.  

He watched the whole thing go down. I’ve read commentaries where they say Adam was off somewhere. I’m like, The text says he was with her. He saw the thing go down and he still partook of the fruit. What happened is, she was tempted by something that delights her eyes. It was almost like lust for wisdom. It’s not like God didn’t give them wisdom. They had the wisdom to function in their purpose. They had to be in their role. He had blessed them. They were definitely at everything they needed to go forward, be fruitful, healthy and all those great things. Hers isn’t ezer kenegdo. Her one desire above all else is to function in her purpose, the helpmate for Adam. The temptation to be wise and gain more wisdom might make her think, That’s going to help me do my job better. I’ll be better at what I’m doing.  

That temptation and deception often come to us in forms like that. It’s just that little thing. If you had this, you could do better or you be better. When in reality, it’s in there. It might be in seed form yet. It might not manifest yet but it’s in there. It doesn’t need to come from that outside source. When Adam ate, he wasn’t deceived. She puts something before God which was the desire to gain more wisdom. Probably if she’d ask God, he would’ve given it to her the thing that she would desire to be better. Adam put her first. Anytime we put anything in front of that relationship with God whether it’s a person, a thing, a desire, if it comes first, it always leads to a fall. It’s because we lack trust. We’re not trusting Him.  

I had an injection because this is also a place where it breaks down for me. I’m glad you brought that up because that was the thing that’s always come to me and comes up in our discussions is that even not have known, Adam definitely should have knownThe other piece of it that breaks down is that when she added the extra piece if he miscommunicated, why didn’t he correct her at that moment? To let her know“It does not touch. The sequence after that is, she goes on and the serpent is like, No. She takes up the fruit and because she touches it, she doesn’t die immediately. She eats the fruit and then she doesn’t die immediately so she hands it to him.  

You have all these series of things that are happening that are unfortunately confirming. He’s like, I said not to touch,” whatever but Adam couldn’t be like, I didn’t say touch nowyou just don’t eat. In the previous texts, we talk about how He gave him the commandment before the creation of Eve so he was responsible for that. You were talking about how zakar means to remember and speak the word. That’s his one role and responsibility. It’s the one thing that has to keep track ofAlways in the back of my mind is if that’s what you’re named after, that’s your role and function, you didn’t make that correction, why didn’t he make that correction? Why didn’t he correct her on that because that would’ve been his responsibility to make sure that we are living in aligns with the word that the Lord has given usThat’s the interesting note that always comes up. I don’t know if you have an insight on that. 

I think this whole story would have been different if they had done that one thing. If they had said, Let me go check something really quick. Go to the word yourself and look it up or pray. That would’ve made all the difference. Neither one of them did that in this case. He knows him better but still didn’t and she was deceived. We think this sounds right or sounds true and I’m seeing some evidence that it might be true. We still need to go check. She could have gone to Adam and said, “Tell me that commandment again. What did it say?” She could have gone to him herself but he also, knowing, still partook of the fruit.  

It was because he knew if she disobeyed, he was right in the boat with her. He didn’t want to lose her if she had eaten and he hadn’t, they no longer would have been compatible. They no longer could have functioned together whatsoever because you would have one that was following and one that wasn’t. Women are good at pushing. We’re good at trying to get our way sometimes even if it’s not what we should be, we pushing toward. You know that it’s not right but you go along with it because you want to keep peace in your house, you don’t want to argue with it or you truly want her to be happy because that is a good desire for men to have. It’s to make their wives happy. You do it knowingly. It’s not good. You need to speak up and say something.  

You say in terms of keeping her happy because the other thing that I take note of in a text is that it’s always interesting to me, as I said, the sequence. They both ate and then their eyes were open. Why weren’t her eyes open before he ate? She would have known that what she was doing was wrong. Why was it until after he ate that both have made a very clear point in the text that she handed it to him and he ate? It says in the text, both their eyes were open. I’m like, What’s the significance of that sequencing? If she had got it, she would’ve been like, I did something wrong. She didn’t get that awareness until after he ate which was astounding to me. I don’t know if you have the insight into that. 

It may be because they’re one flesh. You can think of her having one of the eyes and him being an eye. The eyes of both of them were open. There are some really neat midrashic stories. Those are Jewish stories from the text that go into detail based on the Hebrew and different aspects and verses that are found elsewhere in the Old Testament. That says what happened when Adam and Eve before they ate this fruit had a luminous type skin, they have white. Now, that sounds crazy. Remember when Moses went up on the mountain, he was in God’s presence and then his face shown or when they saw Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration and he was glowing in the Book of Revelation, he has this luminance to his skin. What they say happened here is they lost that. That’s the nakedness that was there. That’s what they realized immediately. They’re like, “This is all bad.  

Those are the two clarifying deciles. That was some additional insights on that. That’s wonderful. Now they can see and then the Lord shows up in his light, they got some fig of leaves.  

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This is the fig leaves. They covered themselves with the leaves of the tree of which they had consumed. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t eat figs. I’m not saying that is forbidden fruit. it’s very likely figurative language in the Bible and how the word itself is compared to a tree of life. You can see how them trying to cover themselves. They were using that thing that they had fell with. What happened in the next verses is they heard the sound of the Lord walking in the garden in the cool of the day. The man and his wife hid from the presence of the Lord among the trees of the garden. The Lord called and said to him, “Where are you? He said, I heard the sound of you in the garden. I was afraid because I was naked so I hid. Notice, when their eyes were opened with this wisdom that they got from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It’s obviously wasn’t godly wisdom.  

This would be wisdom from below. This is the first time that we see the attribute of fear. They were afraid. I truly believe every decision we make is rooted in either love or fear because the opposite of love is not hate. It’s fear. Hate is a symptom of fear. That’s where that comes from. It comes because we’re afraid of something. Because of what they did, they tried to die which is not like you can hide from God. When he says, Where are you? the Hebrew term for that phrase doesn’t mean where’s your physical location because I don’t know it. That’s not what it means. It’s like where are you like what happened. It’s more of an emotional expression like, “Where are you at? We’re not on the same page anymore. There’s schism. It was caused by their fear.  

We do try to hide from God too. When we know our conscience, every person has a conscience, it gets to you. If you’ve done something, you might even go into a bit of a depression and you won’t stay under the covers for a while. It’s that same emotion that they were feeling here. Fear is the beginning of the schism even between man and woman because this was breaking relationship with God and it put a schism between them two. We can go then immediately into consequence if you want to.  

I want to interject a little bit because when you were talking about the schism piece and the fact that when he said, “Where are you? It’s a reflection of the fact that God is saying, “There’s a disconnect here. I can’t sense where you are. We were connected. We were in sync before and now something has shifted and you’re hiding. I can sense that. I’m letting you know we’re not on the same page anymore. It’s interesting that you said that because it struck in the core and heart of what I understand about dongle which is this idea that I tell gentlemen that the woman who is following you become so intimately familiar with the nuances of you that you aren’t even aware of that when something is off, she can detect it immediately.  

If something has changed with you, the reason that she can detect that immediately is that she’s developed such a synergy and harmony with you that when something is off with you. Even though she can’t always articulate where that comes from, she can sense itA lot of times you see in relationships where the woman is like, “Are you okay? What’s wrong with you?” He goes, I’m fine. She can tell because there’s something that’s off. The reason it’s off is that she knows him so well. She’s intimately familiar with the way his body moves, muscles contract, he breathes when he’s thinking or he breathes when he’s confused. She is aware of all of those nuances that even he isn’t aware of.  

When any of that shifts. She picks up on it immediately. When you said that, Where are you? as a sign of picking up on that disconnect in the schism, it made me immediately think about where the schism happens in the dance and also in the relationships as a result. They can’t be on the same page anymore. It’s not because they’re not. It’s because something has changed with the gentlemen.  

Yes. The lien. 

The lien and she senses it because she’s not initiating anything. He’s not there to sense the change. She’s there to sense the change. Her role and responsibility are to stay in sync with him when something changes with him. I wanted to underscore that because that’s something that we talk about a lot and I was superdeep. Back to the consequences, I wanted to underscore that.  

Analogies could not be more perfect. Only God can orchestrate that. It’s amazing to me. This is what happened. First, He asked him, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat? God knows they have. It’s like you’re asking your kid, “Did you get in that cookie jar? You know they had but you’re going to see if they’re going to tell you the truth or not. What’s the man’s response. 

He asked the man specifically.  

There’s a reason He asked him specifically. First, he’s responsible for the wordthe foundation. That’s his job. What is the man’s response? You have to remember that he’s coming from a place now a fear. He’s not coming from that strong relationship connection that he had with God nor with Chavah or Eve, he is coming from a dark place. Even neuroscience teaches us now about fear. When you’re in fear, you can’t receive. We can’t receive it fully. We’re almost in that hindbrain. It can’t even process well. If we don’t feel loved and safe, we can make some really bad decisions because we’re not even thinking with our executive brain at that point. His immediate response in the place of fear, the woman, you gave to be with me, she gave me from the tree and I ate. He was angry.  

In Hebrew, anger is expressed very strongly. You can see it more by the Hebrew words that were chosen. He was mad at God and he was mad at Eve. He’s mad at both of them. Remember, we said anger was a symptom of fear. That’s one of the things that happens when we get afraid, we get mad. That’s stemming from that fear. We’re following straight through this chapter in Genesis 3 if you’re wondering where we’re at. He says to her, “What is this you have done? She doesn’t even mention Adam. She says, “The serpent deceived me and I ate.” She realized her eyes were open. She realized what happened. We see this blame thing with Adam going on and anytime we’re the one that’s responsible, we can tend to blame other people. That’s our first go-to thing.  

The boldness of that was powerful to me because it was like, “If you hadn’t given me her, none of this would’ve happened. I was like, I was looking for the lightning bolt.  

You would almost expect those because his job was to be responsible in that area. That’s what he was as a male, as zakar. This was the essence of his beingThough God questioned him first because he was the responsible party. Now, we’re going to see a reversal because he was the last one that God dealt with when it came to the consequence. You see him here at the first and then you see him at the last there. I think there’s a reason for that too because they’re catching upLet’s talk about the word curse because I think that’s misunderstood too. When we think of curses, we often think of almost like a voodoo hips type thing or something like that but that’s not what curse means in Hebrew. A curse is a movement away from the ideal or something’s purpose and function. 

It’s operating outside of the function or purpose.  

It’s a movement away from the commandments of God because they’re about our function and purpose too. It’s not like a hex. God didn’t hex them. If you pay attention when we’re reading these, God does not curse Adam and Eve because He blessed them. Remember, that’s the first thing He did. You can’t curse what God has blessed. God’s stuff in a curse what He’s blessed but what He did curse has to do with the role and function because they perverted it by eating of the tree.  

Now, they’re going live in it. It’s almost like, “You made your bed. Now you’re going to lie in it. Instead of addressing Adam or Chavah first which is Eve, he addresses the serpent. This was a chiasm here. A chiasm is poetic that your Bible has tons of them. You see Adam at the first, you see Adam at the last then He deals with Chavah, Eve. He asked her, “What did you do?” You’re going to say her consequences to come right before Adam’sIn the center of this story which is the heart of the message is everything with the serpent. God doesn’t question the serpent. He starts telling him.  

He says, “Because you’ve done this, first, are you more than all cattle and more than every beast of the field. On your belly, you will go and dust you will eat all the days of your life. I’ll put anonymity between you and the woman and your seed and her seed. He shall bruise you on the head and you shall bruise him on the hill. That’s all that’s told to the serpent but within that one in Genesis 3:15 is one of the greatest prophecies that are in scripture when he says, I’m going to put anonymity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed and he shall bruise you on the head and you should bruise him on the hill. You’re going to see this play out through the rest of your Bible. It gets to the final conclusion that you see in the Book of Revelation. That message being in a center of this story, they didn’t have highlighters, bolding, quotation marks and all that. If you wanted to highlight something in the text, they did it through a chiasm literary device. That’s what that is and so then we get back to it ish. Notice it says in the text, to the woman he saidWho’s he speaking to? 

To the woman. 

He’s not speaking to the man. This is important because this verse gets twisted all the time. It meant corporate it all the time but he’s talking to the woman and he says, I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth, in pain you will bring forth children and your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you.” We’re going to break that down because it’s very important. To the man, he says, Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten from the tree which I commanded you saying you shall not eat, cursed is the ground, Adamah, because of you, you will eat the plants of the field by the sweat of your face. You will eat bread until you return to the ground because from it, you were taken. For you are dust and to dust, you shall return.” If you haven’t read the first segment, this might go over your head. We’re going to try to explain it because at the beginning of this one, we talked about how Adam came from the Adamah, which is the ground.  

That’s the thing that he was going to take care of, serve, till and keeps going to garden. Notice what is cursed. I hate the word curse. The consequence is a better term here. The consequence of his sin is his function and purpose on the earth are now going to be hard. What was once easy is now going to be difficult. This is going to cost you some sweat, blood and tears where the ground would have easily produced it for you before.  

Just to clarify in the first episode that you did with us, you were explaining the relationship between Adam, his name and Adamah, which is what he came forth from. Adamah being the ground that he would till and he was formed from and his name was Adam. I wanted to clarify that to make sure I’m following with and for everybody else as well.  

The thing from what she came is the thing is what he was supposed to serve. That’s the thing that now is going to be hard. God’s original design wasn’t that it’d be hard but the consequences now it’s going to be difficult. The same thing happens to Eve. Remember, she came from Adam, not the ground. What were her function and purpose? We talked about what this ezer kenegdo does. She surrounds, protects and she builds upon the foundation which is her man. This is her function and purpose. That doesn’t have to do with physical children. I want you to think broader than that. Think of that as a metaphor. You’re giving birth to something. It’s going to be hard and it’s going to be painful.  

Both of them have toil and pain now associated with their function and purpose but she’s got more than childbearing, birthing and manifesting things into life. She’s also got this relationship with Adam. That last phrase that was given to her in Genesis 3:16, “Your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you. I can’t tell you how many different sermons and commentaries I’ve heard on that verse. It’s presented as if this is the mandate where man is supposed to rule over women. Remember, who was God talking to here? Was it man? Did he say, Adam, you need to rule over that woman?”  

He was talking directly to her and He’s telling her, This is what’s going to happen. This is the consequence of what you did. A consequence to sin is that her desire is going to be for him and yet he will rule or master you because that word for the rule is really important thereIt’s the Hebrew word mashal. Mashal means ruler master but it’s also the same word for parable or proverb. A parable and a proverb are supposed to help rule or master your thinking toward the right path. There is a ruling in mastering aspect and to make matters even worse, if you want to twist this and say, This is the precedent for men to master women, because there’s a whole different concept of having a leader and a follower than being mastered. Only different relationship and not God’s intention here. If we go into Genesis 4 with Cain then we get deeper understanding of what this phrase means.  

The word mashal that’s in that verse that we’re God is talking to Eve ithe same word mashal that you’re getting ready to refer to in Cain and Abel?  

We’re going to dig in there because it’s important to understand what this means. We’re going to get into her desire. We’re going to talk about that Hebrew word too. This last phrase is vital. If we don’t get anything else, we won’t get this one because it’s going to help us so much. In Genesis 4:6-7, this is the story of Cain and Abel. You probably know Cain ended up killing Abel and it was all bad. He came to the first murder.  

I’m going to give you the setup for that story. Cain and Abel are brothers. They bring offerings to the Lord. The Lord is pleased with Abel’s offering but he’s not pleased with Cain’s offering. Cain was miffed by this. He’s like“You take what he offered but you’re not taking what I offered. He was a little hurt, a little offended. This is what it says. The Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why has your countenance fallen? If you do well or good, will not your countenance be lifted up? We can say a fallen countenance is a Hebrew idiom for anger. He’s saying, “If you do good, if you do well, your countenance will be lifted back up because emotions change. If you don’t do well, sin is crouching at the door.  

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Here’s the phrase that’s matching our one here with Eve, And its desire is for you but you must master it. In this case, God is telling someone to master something. What He’s telling him to master are his emotions. He’s like, “If you will master this emotion instead of letting that emotion master you, all are going to be well but if you don’t, it’s going to turn into sin. We know it did because he ended up killing his brother. That’s the exact same phrase that is used. That’s giving us an idea of what’s going on with the consequence or the curse with Eve. This was not a commandment for men.  

It was not proscriptive meaning that it was a directive given. This was descriptive. It’s describing to her what was going to now take place. We already know that Adam was a bit angry with her over those little ordeals. He had already blamed her. In a sense, it began with fear but this is where it took rootThat’s where we see the subjugation of women. We do see some misogyny. The Bible Chronicles a lot of it but what it’s chronicling is this fallen mandate because the idea from the beginning was, he was a leader. There’s an expression like a governor. “A good governor serves you. You don’t serve the governor.  

That’s exactly what he was. He was a servant but so is she. That’s what Christianity and Judaism teach in the New Testament. We are to serve one another. This is what we’re supposed to submit to one another. The model for that was Jesus who said he came not to be served but to serve. If we want to flow, move and work well together, we serve one another. We’re all in a type of servant role even a leadership role is a servant role. When you have one that’s trying to rule, master or take dominion over another person then obviously that’s a perversion of that servant role. It becomes about power which is not God’s intent.  

That’s amazing because in the entire leader, what it means to be a leader in Tango, we tackle that. A leader is a relationship to the follower. Without a follower, there is no leader. Without followers who are willing to lend their power or to the shared mission that the leader is supposed to initiate, there is no leader. It’s not about power. It’s about shared visionThe follower has agreed, I want to lend my power to them. I want to aggregate my power to do that. Without that agreement and alignment, you don’t have a leader. You can’t have a leader that has no power. A leader requires a follower. 

It could be something else but it’s not a leader. Thank you so much. The clarity on that is important that’s where that started. As I said, I want to bring it full circle and I wanted to address the blame piece as my closing remark on this because the fact that you said in the previous blog and you said in this one, you restate it like“We’re on this side of the cross. In the chronology of Christianity that happened but the redemption for that fall, original sin or missing the mark was the coming of Christ. His death and His sacrifice were to redeem that.  

It was supposed to reconcile that. It so interesting because as we talked about the whole blaming piece of it, I mentioned to you there’s one verse that stood out to me as a reflection of that reconciliation. It shows up in Ephesians 5. We’ll tackle on another episode about were in Ephesians 5:21-25 where He talks about the whole submission piece and that’s a whole other thing but we’re in Ephesians 5:25 where he says, Husbands love your wives just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her to make her Holy. Cleansing her by the washing of the water through the word and to present her to himself as a radiant church without stain, wrinkle or any other blemish but holy and blameless.  

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That whole blameless piece is the thing that stands out to me most because here’s this instruction of the husbands reconciling in the way that Christ reconciled. You need to have this relationship with your wife the way that I have with the church and the way that I have it is that this is what I’ve reconciled. Now, I charge you with washing her in the same way, remove all the spots, removing all of the blemishes and stains and leaving her without blame. To me, that was a restoration because in that original encounter, he blamed her.  

Adam believes her blameless. It’s a complete reversal of that blame and shame game that was played in the beginning. It’s a very beautiful thing. Paul even says it in Ephesians, “What I’m telling you is this mystery. This is Messiah in his body.” He’s using that marriage analogy. That’s the intimacy that he desires with us. It’s that close. He is a good husband. He’s going to completely cover you. He knows you’ve got faults and blemishes but he’s going to fix, clean you up and not going to point any fingers at you. He’s teaching all of it on him.  

We’re going to bring this full circle because as we close out, now that we understand that this is where this breakdown happens, how do we begin to move back in the direction? How do we get ourselves back towards, moving towards, getting back on track? We understand that there has been this step of reconciliation through price on the coming of Christ. How do we move forward from this so that we can end this battle of the sexes?  

The first thing I’m going to tell you is what nearly every marriage self-help book eventually says and that is, “You can’t change your partner. The only one you have control over is you. What you have to work on is you. They’ll tell you, “Do this for your husband even if you don’t feel like it or the same thing with your wife. Start doing these things. Shut your mouth with anything negative, only speak positive things even if you’re feeling negative and you want to say something. They’re telling you that because your feelings catch up with your actions and your actions are going to directly affect them. When you change, it changes them. It is backward to our minds but it is true.  

That’s what all the books tell us. If you want true reconciliation, you have to first put yourself out there. You’re going to be vulnerable. You’re also going to have to be humble. It doesn’t matter if you’re the man or the woman, you both need humility. Humility has to come first and then you can get to that love and respect that reciprocal nature where you have the woman who is told to reverence and respect and honor her husband. You have the man who is directly commanded in scripture to love his wife. This love is sacrificial love. It is being willed to die like that Ephesians passage that you’re talking about. It talks about the willingness to die. You’re like, “Which comes first though?” It’s like the dance. When you’re watching it, you don’t really know. It’s flowing and moving together.  

That’s why my first piece of advice is focus on you and think, “I’m going to be the best I can be. Even if they’re rubbing against me driving me crazy. It’s like, I’m going to work on me. I’m not even talking about dysfunctional, abusive relationships right here. That’s a whole different ball game but in the normal course of human interaction, you know how we do so work on you. I am going to control my mouth, be positive and speak life words to them, around them, for them even if I’m doing it with my teeth gritted, I’m going to do it.  

Thank you so much for that. I love it because you give us this bridge from that battle to the steps of repair that we can take so that we can get to that reciprocal nature.  

I truly believe most men and women want to be in a healthy, happy relationship. I don’t even think that’s something that we have to do. I don’t know if they want that. At their heart, who doesn’t want to have that harmony in that piece, they do want it. If we can get over ourselves for a little bit and humble ourselves, we can have that. We can then sit down and go, This is what the ideal looks like. Once you get to that place then you can start discussing, How can we start doing our group together to make this happen where you’re honored and respected on loved and it’s all going back and forth perfectly flowing?”  

I appreciate it because I think you have set the stage for that by giving us an intimate understanding of it and helping us to break down some of the mischaracterizations, misunderstandings and giving also painting the picture of the original roles, functions and designs. Number one, understanding their original roles and design that can help us to have mutual respect for the fact that we are created differently and that we have different roles and functions as a part of the whole. In the other piece, now that we understand that and it is equal but opposite, we can use that to do what we were created to do. Be co-creators and corulers in this earth and in this wonderful paradise that God created for us.  

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Battle Of The Sexes: The serpent deceived her, but Adam was not deceived.


I know that was dense and intense but we had to get it all while she was here. If we can’t have her 5 days of the week, we got to get for a little bit of time but the information will be there for our study and review. We will be going back to it referring to your work. Hopefully, you’ll come back and talk. After you leave us, we’re going to process some of this and pull it all together. Thank you so much, Kisha. It has been such a pleasure. 

Thank You. 

As she took us on a journey into the original battle of sexes and how we can overcome and win together. As usual, our conversations with Mrs. Gallagher are so regulatory. They are dense and intense. She gives us a lot of information and a lot of food for thought and understanding. Be careful on that food for thought after we talked about eating fruit that you love eating. I love the way that she takes literally sometimes wordbyword especially the most important words and gives us the proper definition and context.  

It’s important because sometimes, mischaracterization of one word can completely change your understanding, not only of the words themselves but now of your own purpose in your divine design and your function here on the earth as a man or a woman. It does help us to get context and get back to the center. It helped us, I know for me, get an understanding of why the battle of the sexes began where there was that original breakdown and falling part of relationships. Also, because we had the original understanding of what their roles and functions were to begin with, we can start to take a journey back to the original idea and vision for relationships as we step more and more into the roles that we were designed to fill the functions, serve and the purposes that we were designed to fulfill.  

Happily ever after in living a life in paradise is not a fantastical thought or paradigm and she helped us to understand. It was the original vision and intent for God for us to live happily ever after in a paradise. Now, it’s up to us to take ourselves and put ourselves in position where we worked our way back to Eden. That has been extraordinary. As we say on 22Tango Show, it not only takes 22Tango but it takes you to Tango. Ciao. 

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 About Kisha Gallagher

22T 8 Kisha Gallagher | Battle Of The SexesKisha Gallagher is the author of the BEKY Book: The Biblical New Moon: A Guide for Celebrating, and the website, Grace in Torah, a ministry devoted to the Gospel of Yeshua, the moedim (feasts), marital roles, and general Bible study. Many lives are touched through her website, conference engagements, and weekly small groups.

Kisha is a Creation Gospel trainer and a former cohost on Hebrew Nation Radio’s Morning Show, Renewed. She is a new programmer on ReviveTV (Hebraic Roots Network). Kisha resides near the Smoky Mountains with her husband and sons.